Xonja 2zero
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2009.03.09 12:46:00 -
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 Originally by: MotherMoon
there is a BIG different between minmatar getting
7.5% rof per level and 10% falloff bonus per level.
and gallente getting
7.5% rof per level , 10% falloff bonus per level , and 7.5% damage per level.
If you don't see how this is better than the minmatar bonus, or doesn't make a real different in combat, your a damned fool.
I'm fine with the Loki getting the same gun bonuses, as soon as the Proteus gets the same base speed, and 150% bonus to scram range, because that's surely the same thing too.
Sarcasm aside, i haven't tried the Loki since i lack the necessary Projectile/Missile skills to be able to really judge its performance. But to me it looks like it will be perfectly able to do the same thing a Vaga can do, engage several targets and bug out if things don't go your way. The difference being is that with the Loki, the number of targets you can kite is limited by the number of webs you want to bring. Fit some ambit extensions and light armor tank, maybe a TD and you're good to go. I'm not a big number cruncher or EFT warrior, but i have a pretty good feeling of what works from years of PVP, as well as practicing with friends to translate stats into experience. If my maths are off, please correct me on the following:
Loki, Huggabond
def: amp node
elc: immo driver
eng: cap regen matrix
off: proj scoping array
prp: chassis opt
Hi/Med/Low
5/5/6
5 turrets, 10% dmg/10% falloff per level
drones 30mbit/45m¦
937.5 powergrid
400 cpu
180m/s + 25% (Navigation V) + 5% (Prop Subs V) = 281.25m/s base speed
100m - 25% (Def Subs V) = 75m signature radius
An example setup for the above would be:
Hi:5x 220 T2 Autos
Med: 1x Y-T8 or T2 MWD
2x T2 or better web
1x T2 or better disruptor
Low:1x DCU II
1x Armor Kin II
1x Armor Exp II
1x MAR II
1x Nano T2 or better
Rigs:3x Projectile rigs to taste, i.e. 2x Ambit/1x Burst for 30km falloff
For comparison, a Huginn is 10m/s slower, and has half the lowslots to begin with. Add one T2 Nano to the Loki and you get 307.69 base. More turret DPS than a Vaga, plus spare drones. Just 10m more signature radius than a Scimitar. The only thing that's missing here would be +1 mid or high slot for injector/utility. No CPU issues at all in this build, although for shield tanking setups, more might be needed.
I suspect the CPU got nerfed so badly because of the lolpassivetank setups that were possible. I don't get why CCP still won't stacking penalize SPRs, but that's off topic.
Anyway, with the above setup the only limiting factor is how much you want to spend on faction gear. With proper webs and disruptor, you can engage any two ships safely out of heavy Neut range. Anything except heavy missile or laserboats without risk to yourself at all. Replace one web with a TD and you can engage any single turret ship without risk to yourself at all. If you can't kill, run! It's the most survivable of all the T3 ships. In wolfpacks, it is definitely the scariest in my opinion. What more can you ask, want a neut bonus maybe? Oh wait, we already have a Curse, and it's probably the only ship you'd be worried about.
TL;DR: Vaga/Huginn remix, sounds like a fair deal to me. |